I had a call this week with one of our old clients (Robert) who said:

“I am just in a summer slump. I don’t know what is going on. I think I am doing the right things, but the numbers are not growing.”

“I make headway a week or two, and then my referrals drop off. The board is wanting more. We told them we would hit a specific number, and we are not there yet.”

“I have to get more from my team, and I don’t know what to do.”

I told Bob, “I am glad you called! So many of us are in this position at one point in our lives – the summer slump!”

 

I asked Bob a few more clarifying questions:

 

    1. What was going on with his marketing team?
    2. What changes have recently happened with his Operations team?
    3. How’s intake?
    4. What was the one thing that he believed could be done to move the needle?

His initial response – like many of you – was staffing. “We need more staff.” He said to me.

 

I asked, “Besides staffing, what else would move the needle?”

 

He paused for a long minute – there was silence on the phone and then said, “I think the issue is focus.”

 

“They need focus” and then quickly added “and energy. I think this long, drawn-out COVID state is making them tired. Everyone relies on the marketers to bring the energy, and they are tired too.”

 

I can so relate. All the marketers we mentor and coach are tired.

And when you get tired, you need two things:

 

    1. Inspiration
    2. A clear path

 

Many of the teams we work with are in the same position. Consider one of our favorite teams in the south. They are in the middle of COVID numbers rising. Their referral sources are EXHAUSTED! They “snap” at the marketers, and their compassion for their patients is declining – they just “need this bed” for the next patient.

 

How can you market in an environment like this?

 

Inspiration and connection – if your tank is empty, it’s hard to give to your referral sources. 

    • Put on your own “oxygen mask first” before helping your referral sources.

 

When you are tired, you need a clear path – what are you highlighting this week?

    • Have a clear, educational message in an email, Voice Mail, and in-person to ensure the message gets to your referral sources. (you need it in all formats – email, text, VM, and in-person)
    • Connect to the human first – our referral sources face a trauma – connect to the human before moving into your educational message and highlighting a patient type.

 

This is a volatile time.

There will be no “new normal.” Simply volatility in our marketing space. When we understand that truth, we know that continuous adaptation is the only way to move forward.

 

We have adapted our foundational program, RoadMap to Referrals, to gain referrals during this volatile time so that you can serve more patients. Gain more referrals and impact more family’s lives.

 

Curious how we have adapted the system?

 

Click here to find a time on Mike’s calendar that works for you.

 

Together we GROW!

Melanie Stover

Cheryl Peltekis, RN “The Solutionist”

One of the biggest challenges your organization faces is in getting enough referrals for the company to remain profitable. Many times, organizations think they can get enough business from just websites and word of mouth and I will tell you, these are the ones that typically don’t succeed.

If you look around at the top 5 organizations in your market, I guarantee you that they have a sales representative or a team of sales representatives. If you ask agency leadership, “what is the biggest challenge your sales representatives face today when trying to gain new business?” The answers are usually the same.

1.  Staffing.

2.  Having a Sales Rep that can get past the gatekeeper.

3.  Gaining relationships with the hospitals.

4.  Contracting with insurance companies.

5.  Leadership can’t relate to sales team personality and demands.

Today I want to share with you a few tips so you can get past the gatekeeper and gain more private duty, home health, and hospice referrals.

Here are your 5 tips to learn how to overcome the 5 Challenges:

 

1.  CHALLENGE: Staffing.

Buy the Recruiting and Retention program. One tip from the program will be worth 10X the cost. So many companies waste money by placing ads that aren’t effective. So many ads are placed and potential candidates are lost to a slow culture at an organization. This program will help you evaluate your current process, and give it an upgrade!

2.  CHALLENGE: Having a sales rep that can get past the gatekeeper.

If your sales rep can not get to the referral source they can’t build a relationship that produces referrals. We got you! Buy the High-Performance Sales Academy! This program teaches not only a repeatable, successful sales process but how to get past the gatekeepers to put it in action!

3.  CHALLENGE: Gaining relationships with the hospitals.

Hospitals can be a real challenge to gain access. In fact, we teach a whole class on how to access the hospitals in our High-Performance Sales Academy and spend time role-playing out the situations every month on our group coaching calls and really take the sales reps through all the what-if scenarios. You may also need to get a vendor clearance and your organization may also have to purchase in referral exchange EMR’s.

However, one way that almost always works, and it doesn’t require any special referral software, is to have your sales representative go visit any of your active patients that get admitted to the hospital. The sales representative can go visit the patient and after they see the patient, stop at the desk and ask them to page the discharge planner that has your patient’s room assigned to them. When the Case manager arrives, you now have a chance to do your qualifying sales call and find out if this hospital discharge planner has both the willingness and the ability to refer to your organization.

You want to be prepared to ask several questions so you can then easily position your organization to obtain referrals.  Here are a few examples of what I would ask. All of this is also taught in our High-Performance Sales Academy and more!

    • What agency do you currently refer most of your patients to? This question typically gets an answer that is something like: We offer patient choice, or we provide the patient with a list.
    • Can you show me if my organization is on your list?  If you’re not on the list, you can write a letter to the hospital corporate compliance officer to request to be on the list.  If you are on the list, you can say something like “Great, I’m so glad that you offer freedom of choice.
    • Could you share with me: What criteria you use to help your patients receive guidance on selecting an agency from the list? How do they know what providers are great at wound care? Or How do they know what providers take their insurance? Or how do they know who can provide 24-hour care at home?
    • Can you share with me 2 examples of when you had to refer a patient to a different provider than your preferred provider?
    • How often do you have to give a referral to someone other than your preferred providers?
    • Do you have trouble getting services provided quickly in any of the counties?
    • Could you share with me 3 things that you love about referring to your preferred agency?
    • Could you share with me 3 challenges that you have experienced in working with your preferred provider?
    • Would you be willing to try my organization if I can solve any of your challenges?
    • Is there someone else that is going home today that is just like my current patient, Mrs. Jones that I could also provide care to?

4. CHALLENGE: Contracting with Insurance companies.

Here is a secret. The busiest agencies in ton don’t have to chase after the insurance contracts. The insurance companies approach them to become a provider.

You see, when an insurance company comes into your area, they go to the hospitals and get them to become a provider. Then they ask who do you refer to? They get contracts with all the post-acute care preferred providers.

If you are not currently getting hospital referrals, you will probably be overlooked.

If you want to find the insurances that are providing care in your town just shop as if you are looking for insurance in the zip codes that you provide care. Here is the link to find the information Find Medicare Insurance Providers.

5.  CHALLENGE: Leadership can’t relate to the sales team.

I could go on for days talking about leadership failures when it comes to supporting sales reps. I myself as an agency owner have made many! Thankfully I have learned so much over my 28 years as a professional working in post-acute care.

Sales teams are like herding cats. They are loud, demanding, and want everything yesterday! If they weren’t they wouldn’t be successful. Now, of course, we have some really nice, people who are super successful too.

Often, it takes a strong personality to get past gatekeepers, and if you are not a strong personality, we have our Orientation and High-Performance Sales Academy that will teach you how to do it and still be your true authentic self.  But building a culture that supports sales is critical.

 

If you are an executive or owner and you just are exhausted managing your team, we got you! We are now managing sales teams around the country! We have expanded our team and hired a new incredible sales coach to support us.

Home Care Sales has grown so much over the last few years! We are prepared to expand even more over the next few years! Our sales management includes everything you need to go about your work of getting patients cared for while we take over the daily management of your sales representatives.

We include pdf flyers (personalized for your organizations), sales messages of the week with trigger questions, and all the teaching and coaching your salesperson wants or needs! What to learn more? Set up a time to meet with Mike@homecaresales.com (you can jump on his calendar here).

Melanie and I care about your success. We are on a mission to help every patient that needs and deserves care to get identified for services!

 

Let us help you by having you join in working with us!

Cheryl Pelekis, RN “The Solutionist”

 

 

This summer we rented a houseboat. 46ft of SUPER FUN!

As you know, I have twin 8 yr olds. Donnie LOVES to fish.  So every time we stopped the boat, he had to get a line wet.

Because he is eight, patience waiting for the fish is HARD!

He tried on the back of the boat, on the front, from up top, and on the islands.

He switched out bait and said, mom, I got power bait that will have to work! For three days, it did not.

He was sad, frustrated, and said, “Mom, I am no good at fishing. So I am going to stop.”

But my husband Chris encouraged him, “Don, it’s called fishing, not catching for a reason.

You have to find the right bait for the right fish in the right spot. Then, you keep trying, and you will get it!”

So the next day, Don went out again and tried. This time he tried new bait at a new spot. The springs! The water was so clear you could see the fish swim by the boat! Schools of fish.

Donnie cast his bait right out in front of the fish. I think he hit them on the head! You would think this fish story ends with me telling you that all of Dons perseverance paid off, and he caught a HUGE fish! …But it doesn’t end that way. He didn’t catch any fish this week.

On the way home, I asked him if he had fun on our houseboat vacation, and he said:

“Mom, it was awesome. I had the most fun with you and Dad and Dylan. This was the best!

Even though I didn’t catch any fish, I got to practice my casting, and I got to try a new bait, so that was good. Also, dad taught me how to cast better to get right in front of the fish!”

That’s right, Don – always be a student of the game!  Keep practicing and keep taking shots!   You will get better and more consistent in your catches!

Fishing can be like Home Care Marketing, Home Health Sales, and Hospice marketing. First, you must be a student of the industry. We continue to study sales tactics how to help more people and impact more families’ lives.

Even after 21 years in the industry, I get up every morning and read about industry-related items, changes for our referral sources, review and refine marketing tactics, learn more about how to write compelling copy for our clients to send to their referral sources – Always be a student of the game!

Question:
Ask your marketer – or yourself when was the last time you “studied” the sales process? Or improved your copy skills to get better responses to your emails?  If you haven’t in a while – we have a TON of resources for you!

Jump on Mike’s calendar, and he can show you!

Here’s to Donnie’s next fishing trip and catching that fish! And to you gaining that one piece of the puzzle, you are missing through our resources to get you that next big referral!

Giving you the FREEDOM to Grow!

Melanie

Home Care Marketers report their #1 objection is, “My referral sources or prospects tell me they can’t afford my Home Care Services.”

Here’s the deal. That is not the “real” issue!

The REAL issue is how the Home Care Marketer feels about money and value and their own mindset.

They have a scarcity mindset.

Haven’t we all pulled up to the house and made an “assumption” based on how the house looked that the potential client “can’t afford our services”?

…Only to walk out with a signed agreement for more hours than what we thought?

The Marketers make (false) assumptions about what someone is willing or able to pay for value based on their own limiting beliefs.

The prospect feels this “energy”, and it becomes a self-fulling prophecy. The next thing you know… no signed agreement.

“See, I knew they couldn’t afford it!”

Let’s talk value.

Do you believe that you provide a valuable service?

Of course, you do! If you do not – then change jobs. You have too much integrity.

I am not kidding. If you do not think your agency’s services are worth it – move on.

The rest of you who are continuing to read believe in your services.

They are worth it.

The value the services bring to your clients goes well beyond the dollars you receive.

We speak all the time about consultative selling. You are the Senior Care Expert!

When you identify a problem, share solutions that are part of the process! Price is the last thing on your mind.

I had a mentor who once told me, “Recommend what they need – not what you think they will pay.” It is the best advice I have received. It allows me to paint a picture of our services’ results to the client or their family.

Time to delete from your self conversations

#1. They can’t afford it.

#2. I am sure they will just want 4 hrs.

#3. They have already met with the XYZ agency. I know their price is lower, so I am not going to get this case.

EVERY interaction you have has the potential to lead you to the next case.

You need to connect with the prospect.

Uncover their wants, needs, and desires through great open-ended questions as we teach you.

And be the consultant. Recommend what they need to achieve those desires.

My grandmother – Grandma Pete – was on Medicaid. On paper, you would not think she could afford services. But when you asked the right questions. Her late husband was a veteran. Her three children were willing to pitch in and help. She received services. Most marketers would have stopped at the VA, but the real decision maker was my Mom, and she had influence over her brothers, who pitched in funds.

You know your Mom always said you don’t “Assume.”

A fellow sales trainer Mike Weinberg says,

“When there is a perceived desire and need, and there is perceived value in filling that need, and they can see it in their mind’s eye, there is always enough money IF you are talking to the right person.”

Write this on your whiteboard, or print it out and frame it!

BELIEVE the VALUE you CREATE through your services!

Keep Serving Seniors!

 

Together We Grow!

Melanie

 

PS: If you are struggling with the price objection struggle no more! We got you covered in the High Performance Sales Academy. Click here to get instant access 

Cheryl Peltekis, RN “The Solutionist”

There are plenty of jobs these days, and candidates have the power to pick and choose. You need to make candidates feel wanted and enthusiastic about your company. Otherwise, they will quickly find another one that does.

The interview process now is as much about the potential employee sizing you up as you, sizing them up.

The world is getting faster. Your customers are expecting you to deliver yesterday, and your competition is quickening.

The best talent is used to moving quickly, and they want to work with ambitious, innovative, and fast-moving organizations. If you can’t hire quickly, not only do you lose time and money within the business, but you may also lose great candidates to more agile competition.

Worst of all, you will gain a reputation as slow-moving, bureaucratic, and backward thinking.

 

If you can’t keep up, you will find yourself at the back of the pack. If you know that your organization is slow-moving, for example, you place an ad to hire aides, and then the person who is responsible for reviewing the applicants is on vacation for a week, you probably wasted your money placing that ad.

I interviewed several RN’s and asked them what made them leave where they were working. The number one reason that nurses have left their place of employment is overworked. Having the nurses do too many patients visits per day makes them burn out fast.

So, what’s the solution?

 

Do we turn down business? What can you do to keep staff while you are trying to hire and orient new staff? How do you increase the speed of hiring?

These are the questions that we want to answer for you! That is why we created our Recruiting and Retention Program. You can buy our recruiting and retention program and get instant access right now!

 

Keep Helping, Keep Serving,

Cheryl Pelekis, RN “The Solutionist”

 

 

Every once in a while I read an article that moves me to the core.  This is one of them.

This week we are going to republish an article from a fellow sales trainer Dave Kahle.

Does this describe your sales rep?  Or you?  If it does reach out we can help with our industry-specific “corn planting and harvesting” to help you feed your agency!

On a fairly regular basis, I run into a belief that limits a salesperson’s behavior. These often sound reasonable and are embraced without question. Looking a bit closer at them, however, uncovers how they limit a salesperson’s performance.

One of the most common of these negative and limiting beliefs is this: I have my own style of selling. This is one of the most pernicious of them all because it excuses the salesperson from any responsibility to improve. More salespeople have remained plateaued far below their potential because of this limiting belief than any others.

Let me explain.

Like so many of these limiting beliefs, this has a ring of truth to it. In one sense, everyone has their own style of selling because we are all unique individuals and act out our own unique blend of knowledge wisdom, and life experiences. No two of us are alike. The problem comes when the salesperson uses that belief to ignore the efforts of management and sales experts to help the salesperson sell better. The thought process goes like this: “Since I have my own style of selling, I don’t need to listen to or give any credence to what anyone else tries to teach me. They don’t understand my style, so their advice is irrelevant.”

“My own style” thus becomes an excuse that absolves the salesperson from any responsibility for improving his/her sales skills. And because he retreats into the psychological fortress of his own style, nothing can penetrate it.

So, for example, his manager sends him an article that impressed his boss. The salesperson deletes it unread because he has his own style of selling. Nobody can teach him anything.

A highly recommended seminar comes to town. The salesperson says he is too busy to go, but really means “I have my own style. I’m not going to learn anything at the seminar.”

The company buys a copy of a well-regarded book for all its salespeople. It gathers dust on the salesperson’s shelf because he has his own style of selling. There is nothing in the book that is going to help him. The author doesn’t understand his style of selling.

The company unveils a new product line and directs the salesforce to begin promoting it. The salesperson doesn’t bother, because it doesn’t fit within his style of selling.

“My own style of selling” then because the mechanism to absolve the salesperson of any responsibility to improve his/her sales skills, consider more effective strategy, or refine his tactics.

Best Practices

In every sophisticated endeavor, some people prove better at it than others. And some of those people are thoughtful and analytical and identify those practices that brought better results. Since they are identifiable behaviors, others can mimic them and attain similar, better results. Those behaviors are called ‘best practices.’ They are the behaviors that have been proven to bring better results.

This body of best practices eventually wells up out of every sophisticated human activity. Since the world changes rapidly, this body of knowledge is dynamic, and the serious practitioner regularly studies the best practices of his/her profession, roles them into his routines, and then repeats that process forever. That’s how a professional remains relevant and valuable to those who rely on him.

That why teachers go to in-services; doctors attend conferences’ pilots attend refresher training; ministers and social workers; psychologists, managers, human resource directors, CPA’s, etc. all regularly expose themselves to the latest knowledge of the best practices in tier profession.

I like to compare this process to the task of growing corn. At one point in human history, no one grew corn, they gathered it. I am sure that some gathers were better than others at the skill of spotting corn stalks and knowing when to remove the ears. Those folks thought of themselves as very good and valuable gatherers.

Then, one day, someone thought a bit differently and decided that you could intentionally grow corn. After some experimentation and trial and error, a body of best practices emerged. You got a better result if you planted the corn at a certain depth, for example, with a certain distance between each seed kernel, at a certain time of the year. You got better results if you watered it a certain amount, and fertilized it, etc. Before long, this body of best practices was mimicked all over the world, and mile upon mile of cornfields developed. Millions of people who would have starved are fed, and mankind, in general, has been lifted up by enough people following the best practices of growing corn. Millions of farmers and workers make their living by studying and then implementing the best practices of growing corn.

Every profession follows that process. There is only one exception to that process. Salespeople. This is true despite the fact that sales is the one profession that is more prescribed than any others. Look at how many sales books are published each year, for example, and compare it to the number published for all the other professions. There is no comparison. Sales books far outnumber those produced for any other profession, lawyers, ministers, social workers, nurses, teachers, etc.

Like every other profession, there is a body of content consisting of a set of best practices about how you do sales better. The problem isn’t the content, it is getting the salesperson to engage with that content.

Can you imagine boarding a plane and have the pilot announce that he has his own style of flying? Or, the CPA to whom you have entrusted your annual tax returns telling you that he ignores all the best practices of good accounting, and has developed his own style? Or, the surgeon coming to see you just before they wheel you into the operating room, just to tell you that he hasn’t updated his skills since medical school – no need to, he has his own style.

Can you imagine interviewing for a sales job at one of the industry-leading companies – say IBM, Microsoft, or Northwest Mutual – and telling the interviewer that you have your own style of selling?

The salesperson who hides under the smokescreen of ”his own style” hinders his/her career and robs the company of the potential that could have been realized but will never be because of this limiting belief.

On the other hand, when salespeople are exposed to the best practices of their potential and motivated to add them into their routines, the results are often dramatic and career-changing. See some of those results here.

But, alas, few salespeople actually do, and few sales leaders actually insist on it. Why? Because they have their own style of selling.

**From Dave Kahle

 

You know what, Dave? We couldn’t agree more!

 

Together We Grow!

Melanie

PS.  Does this sound like your marketer?  Ready to get off the revenue roller coaster and have consistent growth? We have the best practices you need to GROW your agency. (Click here to schedule a time with Mike to discuss best practices) Giving you the FREEDOM to GROW! Grab a time on Mike’s calendar to discuss ⤴

Cheryl Peltekis, RN “The Solutionist”

Coaching vs Teaching: What happens when you combine both while supporting a sales representative THAT WORKS in the post-acute world?

In most cases, people wouldn’t bat an eyelid if you’d use the word teaching instead of coaching or vice versa. And why would they?

They both seem to mean the same thing. That is, instructing a student. By nature, however, they both fulfill different roles and serve other purposes.

 

Teaching

(Sales Process, Orientation to the industry)

 

As we already know, teaching is the imparting of new knowledge or instructions to someone else. 

A teacher is a subject expert who imparts wisdom, an experienced professional. However, the line between a teacher and a coach is drawn at their relationship with the student.

Teachers help students learn, and that’s the end of it.

Teaching is focused on imparting knowledge and learning, where the teacher is in charge of the interaction. It has little to do with the student as an individual.

Teaching a sales process falls flat on gaining a referring producing sales professional unless you add coaching.

 

Coaching

(Discussing real challenges, offering guidance beyond the “know-how”)

 

Coaching is taking what you learned from the teacher and applying it to everyday work in the field as a sales professional. Coaches focus on the development and guidance of sales representatives.

In a way, coaches help students grow as individuals, enabling students to refine their skills and find direction.

Coaches, just like teachers, guide a change in students, be it through education, knowledge, or advice. However, here’s where the critical difference lies: the student entirely dictates a coach’s guidance.

Coaching is about helping the student bring out what they already have or know. And that’s how coaches help students change without dictating the change themselves.

This is why our sales management is so effective.

 

We have brought both the teaching and the coaching under one program to deliver incredible results. Just last week I heard from one of our clients who used Home Care Sales for both teaching and coaching their sales representatives. 

They started on their journey by having me come to their organization, where I taught the High-Performance Sales Academy. Then the owner invested in coaching their team.

Last week their sales manager reported that by adding our sales management, and road map to referrals, they have grown by 50% over the previous year! 

Teaching guides with knowledge and advice acquired by the teacher, coaching guides with knowledge and advice, which is based on the individual.

So is a coach a teacher or a teacher a coach?

 

Well, no. They can’t both exist at the same time. This distinction that we’ve just established is less about discriminating between the two and more about understanding and appreciating the ‘coaches’ in our lives. Nonetheless, it’s essential to understand that teachers are still facilitators of knowledge. Ideally, it would serve the world better to have more coaches than teachers, but that is just an indicator of the flaws of our current system. 

Coaches can help bring out the best in sales representatives. Now our sales management provides both the teaching and the coaching together. But we didn’t stop there. We added accountability.  

  • We have the sales representative complete an expectation document that we developed with the owner/administrators.
  • We provide a CRM to document the High-Performance Sales Process in your sales calls, automate weekly sales call purpose, and trigger questions.
  • We provide coaching to personalize navigation through complex sales challenges.
  • We have combined the industry’s top sales teaching for the first 12 weeks in conjunction with expert coaching to overcome any obstacles.  

As a profession, we’ve probably underestimated the value of those who call themselves coaches. This is not to say that we haven’t misunderstood many teachers, who may have actually coached us.

Coaching is a cycle. The job doesn’t end after instruction. Coaches begin by teaching students; they then observe how and what the students learn and then re-evaluate the teaching approach to provide a better understanding.

What does it mean for the post-acute care community?

 

Whether you refer to them as teachers or coaches, not much changes. Cheryl (Me) and Melanie are both naturally equipped to help your sales associate learn and master how to manage referral sources. If you want your sales representative to start driving in referrals sign up here for our sales management done for you program. It takes teaching and coaching to the next level!  

 

Keep Helping, Keep Serving,

Cheryl Pelekis, RN “The Solutionist”